The Coodabeen Champions Competition

The Coodabeen Champions    Competition

Round Eight

Last week at the Hawthorn v. Saints game, Simon got into an altercation with a smug, Hawthorn supporting relative after the siren. Struggling, reaching, Si went with
"Well we've played in a Grand Final more recently than you!"
For this week's comp., send us your lame, pathetic, twisting of statistics or obscure facts, riposte in the face of defeat.

Send your entries to competition@coodabeens.com.au


Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 11:53:52 +1000 From: Jamie Sanderson

Most pathetic statistical reason for your teams superiority

I barrack for Carlon and have used this one on any Essendon supporter this year that mentions we are now 16 premierships each. All I say is 'Well Carlon is better because we actually have 16.4 premierships because the North Melbourne AAA Kangaroos have won two premierships while we have owned 20% of them, so there!'

There you go pathetic and statistical.

cheers,

Jamie Sanderson


Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 22:17:51 +1000 From: John Little

Richmond is better than Collingwood because its supporters have more teeth.

Richmond supporters 2,105,342.5
it would have been 2,105,343, but for an altercation with a Collingwood supporter.

Collingwood 86

I rest my case

John Little


Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 16:17:28 +1000 From: Julian Toohey

Being a teenager following stkilda, i am often at the end of many sour jokes at the expense of stkilda, but over the years i have built up a few little comebacks, which have had mixed results.

the main comment i have to comeback at is, when was the last time stkilda won a grand final, quite simply the answer is 1996, when stkilda mauled carlton in the night grand final.

the old chestnut to someone having a go at stkilda is how many brownlow medalists have your club had???? besides swans i think stkilda is close to top of the brownlow count

one i have worked on for a while, is"if your club had had as little success as stkilda , they wouldn't exist anymore... saying all the success other clubs have had, is the only reason they still exist

also when people talk about tony lockett in high regard as a great sydney player, that is wrong he kicked more goals at stkilda than sydney, so he is a stkilda champion who also played at stkilda

also a bit of nostalgia doesn't hurt, so mentioning events like the lights going out at waverley or a 1 point grand final win, or the saints disco, it doesn't win an arguement, in fatc it makes you sound even stupider anyhow, see you later

Julian Toohey


Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 14:49:58 From: stuart mcarthur

I fondly recall using the following 4-move-checkmate on many a misty Monday morn from the past -

Me: Er!! we thrashed youse on Saturday
Acquaintance: Er!! yeah, well we had more scoring shots
Me: Er!! yeah ya missed coz our backs put more pressure on
Acquaintance: Er!! yeah but our forwards got the ball more
Me: Er!! yeah, only coz it was your home ground
Acquaintance: Er!! was NOT our home ground
Me: Er!! was SO! Just because your board wanted to avoid
live-against-the-gate by transferring the game to Colonial just to boost the
bottom line to cover inadequate membership recruitment..

Also...

(to 'Love Potion Number Nine')

I took my troubles down to Madam Ruth.
You know that gypsy with the gold-capped tooth.
she KNOWS where each footy club'll be in four months time.
she said about the Tigers...
"I've a notion they'll come ninth."

I told her that the Tigers ALWAYS miss.
It's been that way since 1996.
She looked at my palm - and she made a magic sign
but all it confirmed was...
Tiges down at number nine

She dabbed at my tears and said "y'know what I'll do...
I'll check out their fortunes in two thousand and two.
By then Danny Frawley's message might've got through."
I held my breath, I closed my eyes - what could I do??

I didn't know if it was day or night.
I started seeing smoke and flashing lights.
Finally she turned and gravely looked me in the eye
and uttered very sadly...
"I've a notion they'll come ninth."

Regards,

Stuart McArthur


Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:48:54 +1000 From: Anderson Michael

Subject: Pathetic Comeback line

A line which I know to be pathetic I have used to some surprising effect at Kardinia Park is to respond to the Deakin Uni students, timber workers and assorted provincial city types is to say "yeah, well at least we've won a premiership in the last 30 years"! This statement usually requires a follow-up explanation in order to smooth those puzzled expressions "You know the '96 Night Grand Final"!

Kind Regards

Michael Anderson


Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 08:19:59 +1000 From: "Bouras, John"

In light of our loss to the 'pretend' Magpies this week, it's worth remembering a few Port Adelaide facts.

1. Port Adelaide existed as the Magpies before Collingwood came along
2. We average a premiership every 3 to 4 years
3. If all players that came from Port Adelaide currently playing in the AFL still played there, we'd be undefeated at the top of the table. Remember these players include Buckley, Macleod, Bradley, etc.........

cheers

John Bouras


Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 21:31:04 EDT From: PeterCHolman@aol.com

Being a Port Adelaide supporter I have come up with some of the comebacks we use against the opposition weather it is related to their comments or not.Many start with Yeah but and most of the time it gets the opposition going or leaves them bewilded.

ADELAIDE..................Yeah but you are only in the competition because of us.There are many with the Crows but the two flags is hard to come back against.

BRISBANE..................Dont get down at least you can go to the rugby and see the Broncos win.

CARLTON...................You have only 16 premierships and we have won 35.

COLLINGWOOD..........Yeah Buckley is good but only cause we taught him.

ESSENDON................Yeah Hird is good but if we were in the AFL back then we would have drafted him before number 78.

FREMANTLE...............Nothing needs to be said.

GEELONG..................Yeah but at least we dont give away grandsons of legends.

HAWTHORN...............Why dont you go home to see if your dog had pups so you can improve your membership.

KANGAROOS.............Yeah but at least we will be in the competition in 5 years time.

MELBOURNE.............You should have merged with Hawthorn at least you would be top now.

RICHMOND.................Dont feel bad when you finish 9th again it means your better than 7 other sides.

ST.KILDA...................Yeah but come October we will have the same amount of flags as you.

SYDNEY....................Go back and prepare for the Madi Gras you freak."You freak" is only said depending how many you have gone to the footy with and who you have directed it to.

WEST COAST.............We are still laughing that a club took Scotty Cummings in a trade.

WESTERN BULLDOGS............Apart from the one premiership jibe similar to St. Kilda not much is said because all spare time is spent looking for the boy who gave Chris Grant 20 cents of his pocket money so the boy can be lynched and made an example of.

Regards,

Peter Holman


Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:52:55 +1000 From: Tim Goddard

Thanks for serving up this half volley outside off which will be despacted to the ropes poste haste.

Being a long suffering Cats fella for for years, I can thank Billy Brownless for the finest point ever kicked. I use this one as regualrily as I push the roast spuds 'up and right' and save them for last.

"Well, we have kicked the HIGHEST SCORE EVER, and you can't take that away from us"

Long may Geelong reign over us.

Go the cats, go the seagulls.

Tg


Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:44:44 +1000 From: Matt Laing

Last Friday Night the following occurred,

10 minute mark third quarter - Adelaide trail and look gone. "Matty, your Crows are gone they're hopeless" I replied "Oh yeh. well how many premierships have the Tigers won in the last 4 years......huh ..huhİİ NONE... and we've won TWO" (one to me)

20 minute mark, Crows hit the front. Crows player Richardson (surely related somehow to Troy Wilson) goes near the ball. My mate the Tiger supporter is forced to go with "Well at least our Richardson is better than your Richardson." (fair point, one all)

Three quarter time. Crows by 28 points. My mate gets up begins to walk out when he turns and says "See ya tommorow, and ahh that Mcleod goes alright doesn't he?" (victory, two one)

Fourth Quarter. I had no-one to talk to so nothingİvery interesting happened.


Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 13:34:45 +1000 From: Bill Hall

Opposition fan says:"Your side is useless."
You reply: 1) "You're telling me."
2) "You ain't kidding, brother."
3) "You think this is bad, you should've seen them last week."
4) "Of course, the Storm are my first love."
5)"I'm sorry but I have a rare neurological disorder which has robbed me of my short-and medium-term memory. Could you kindly explain to me where I am and who are all these people and why am I wearing this ridiculous scarf?"


Adelaide fan to St Kilda fan: "we've won 2 flags and you've only won 1".

St Kilda fan: "well ours was WORTH 2 because it's twice as hard to get into a final 4 as it is to get into a final 8. Now come to think of it mate, our flag was worth heaps MORE than 2 because we beat Collingwood by ONE POINT!!!"

Adelaide fan: (confused for a moment because it sounded quite good) "hang on a minute mate, that's not right cos we came top out of 16 teams and you only came top out of 12".

Fremantle fan: "oh get a life you two, who cares about all that finals statistics stuff anyway - we've got nicer jumpers and we won the America's Cup".


Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 14:36:38 +1000 From: Glenn

This is an actual conversation which took place after Geelong's loss to Melbourne a couple of weeks ago.

Geelong Support (Glenn from Newport) "We were robbed! Rotten umpires are ruining the game as a specticle!!"

Melb Supporter "What are you on about?"

Geelong Supporter "We didn't get a free kick all day. All the 50/50's went your way. I'd love to see the free kick count."

Melb Supporter " Melbourne got 15 frees"

Geelong Supporter "See, what did I tell you?"

Melbourne Supporter " Geelong got 17 free's"

Geelong Supporter "Yeah..... but all on the wing or down back. You guys kicked three goals from free kicks on your forward line. The only free kick we got inside fifty was a deliberate OOB 49 metres out. Great scoring opportunity!!"

Melb Supporter "We got two frees inside 50 and kicked a goal. Geelong got three frees inside 50 and kicked two goals"

At this point Geelong Supporter realises the statistical argument isn't working; time to change tact -

"BLOODY MURPHY!!! Why on earth we ever got him, he's hopeless!!!! Bet Richmond were glad to get rid of him and that Mitchell White bloke. We recruit two has beens and five dodgie knees!!! Why on earth we ever let Hickmont and Biddiscombe go, and why haven't we got both the Clarke and Houlihan brothers? No wonder we can't win a game....."

Glenn from Newport


Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 15:49:33 +1000 From: Jac & Pete

Melbourne supporters (like us) to Essendon supporters:

You may have beaten us by six points BUT - your percentage dropped by 5.6% and ours only dropped by 0.5% AND - you only won because yu have more 'untouchables' (eg: Hird, Lloyd etc) than us, and we have more 'touchables' (eg: Schwarz, Neitz and now Simon Godfrey) than you.

Peter Kilgour


Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 16:17:48 +1000 From: "Wilson, Karyn"

My favourite riposte and the one I always pull out at the appropriate time, ie when North are trailing by about 8 goals late in the last quarter "Show them your 2 premiership medallions Duck" or Arch or Kingy or whoever has the ball at that particular moment! (it doesn't work too well with Essendon though).

I have also been known to yell "Show them your bank balance Duck" when some jerk in the crowd has said something particularly hurtful about the "King".

Roo Girl aka Karyn Wilson


Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 13:26:52 +1000 From: Tim Goddard

Being a long suffering Cats fella for years, I can thank Billy Brownless for the finest point ever kicked. I use this one as regularly as I push the roast spuds 'up and right' and save them for last.

"Well, we have kicked the HIGHEST SCORE EVER, and you can't take that away from us"

Long may Geelong reign over us.


Dale Callahan

Hi to all the Coodabeen Champions

I have pondered this question for my life time journey since first being brain washed by my uncle to the colors of Black and White. The reason that the Mighty Collingwood will always triumph over our opposition is the Amazing Fact that no other Player from any other side, throughout the history of our great game has ever come close to winning The Copeland Trophy.

Now this fact although few people would know has always been awarded to a Collingwood Champion even in our worst performed years. This is a feat that no other club can even come close to, and might I add has unlike the Brownlow Medal, we have had Champions from all walks of life and from all positions on the field. I think that if you research this fact in depth you will agree with me that from the likes of Gavin Brown, Phil Carman, Collierİand Coventry Brothers, The Macedonian Marvel of Daicos, the running Ray Gabelich, Champion fullforward of the era, Peter Mckenna, Thorold Merrett, Our for ever burning light Darren Millane, Peter Moore who won the double with the Brownlow, Bill Picken even won it and couldn't kick, no opposition player was even a threat that year, add to this Weideman, Richardson, Rose, Ray and Tony (Cabbage Patch) Shaw, and if you add our Champions of today with Buckley etc, how could any team challenge us for this honour. So great are some of our players that they even won it in years they had a dispute with the club such as Tuddenham and Thomson.

Surely that last fact must prove without doubt how sort after The Copeland Trophy is and I am willing to state that I believe no other player from any team will ever win or for that matter poll at all. You only need to look at how well Port Adelaide are travelling at the moment and look at what Mark Williams has for inspiration, yes you guessed it, 2 Copeland Trophies.


Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 23:23:13 +1000 From: David Dickson

Sender : Dicko, Ballarat

Whenever I go to the football and haveİhave heard my team (Geelong) harassed in a verbal manner I often retort with the following:-

1. Larry Donohue is our 7th alltime leading goalkicker. (I must add I was somewhat disillusioned to see Bill Brownless at number 3. A lack of depth which has been a problem for some years.)

2.İ We had the first back pocket player to win a Brownlow Medal (Bernie Smith-1951). Ha Ha Chuckle Chuckle Hortle Hortle.

3. We were not always known as the Cats. We were also aptly named the seagulls (I don't understand why this didn't stick- No offence to Williamstown) & the pivotonians (dropped I belive as it was hard for a railway sleeper as a logo to inspire, unlike a pesky seagull or a malicious moggie.)

4 We were the only side to win premierships in 1925, 31, 37, 51, 52& 63. (No one can take that away)

5. Collingwood have never beaten us by 100 points or more. (My favourite, but was never used at Victoria Park for obvious reasons to those who have travelled there.)

6. Were the only side to have won more games against Pagans'İKangaroos than we have lost. (Only use on David King-like supporters to gain optimum response)

7. Brett Spinks was our equal leading goalkicker in 1998. (Where has the gentle giant gone?)

8. We have a 57% win rate against University which has stood the test of time & will continue to do so.

9. We had the great number 5. One of the greatest bookends of the game, fearless,uncompromising,always a handfull for opposition players with dashing play & an uncanny ability to win kicks in the goalsquare. The great Gary Malarkey. What a full back. (Duffle-Coat special)

Unfortunately I have never used full array of retortsİas I haveİusually had my faceİintroduced to someones fist by number 2. (On hindsight I should move the Larry Donohue comment down the list)


Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 12:07:24 +1000 From: Fry Michael

Adelaide '98. We're so good we don't even have to win all our matches in a finals series to win the premiership [Pumped by 55 points by Melbourne in 1998 and goes on to win premiership.]

Brisbane Have you got a video of all your premiership wins, because I have. [Only club to have featured a video of the Reserves premiership.]

Carlton At least we still have a traditional home ground.

Collingwood Still got the best player in the league [No 5] Still gets most on-air plugs [McGuire]

Essendon More premierships

Fremantle We should have been contenders. Look at the side we could have had, if only the management/footy department one brain cell between them [Lloyd, McLeod, Farmer, Bell (the good years), Woewodin, etc., etc, and of course etc.]

Geelong the only team with god on their side - Abbeeelllleeeeetttttttttttt

Hawthorn two of the best full forwards of all time [Hudson and Dunstall]

Kangaroos Still got best player in the league [No 18, He who shall not be named]

Melbourne The one, the only, Robbie

Port Adelaide Most premiership in a previous life

Richmond Best centreline ever, Clay, Barrott and Bourke]

St Kilda Ahh, the Party Boys, Winner of the Best Social Club award, 1967, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, ..................., 81, 82,.......98, 99.

Sydney Ahh, the glory days, pink caddy's, Leanne and Wokka (uh Geoffrey)

West Coast Eagles Still the team closest to England where boom recruits were sent into hiding in the late 80's, to be resurrected with pick No 106 in the Draft.

Western Bulldogs While there's still teams like Fitzroy, [scratch them], North Melbourne [uhh, AAA Kangaroos] South Melbourne [uhh, Sydney Swans] and the Sainters around, nobody pays much attention to our tactics, B&F results, etc.

Regards

Michael Fry


Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 12:05:31 +1000 From: James Sorroghan

As a Bulldogs supporter my insult is that if we counted VFA Premierships the bulldogs would have 9 VFA cups and 1 VFL cups meaing that we would move ahead of Sydney and Stkilda etc. It is all a conspiricy against the Bulldogs

James Sorraghan


Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 12:32:29 +1000 From: "FURLONG, Mark"

Firstly, any true Richmond supporter should not have to justify anything to anyone who supports a team with red, green, white and PURPLE on the jumper with a song whose words include " HEAVE HO, HERE WE GO, WE'RE FREO". Why even bother justifying yourself to a club whose accumulative winning margin is one BLOODY point. That was against Collingwood anyway and anyone can beat them in a grand final except for Essendon so we don't talk to them either. Also not required to talk to supporters whose clubs loose four grand finals in 6 years such as Geelong. Should not have to justify ourselves to supporters of clubs who will be banished to the VFL, EFL or even the two Dollar Shop at end of year such as Kangaroos, Bulldogs. Blues and Melbourne are right royal toss bags whose only claim to fame is that their presidents are more exciting than their style of play. Why the hell would one want to talk to these Hyundai driving Quaffers. Most other clubs are two-bit players cobbled together by the AFL to fill our screens on Saturday night and Sunday arvo only to counter re-runs of Elvis Presley's "kissing Cousins and "viva Las Vegas" because the Astor theatre didn't need them that day. These include Sydney, Adelaide, Brisbane, west Coast and Port. In closing we Richmond supporters have no need to talk to anyone else anyway except the skirts calling themselves midfielders, and that is only to try and get their drink cards off them or to get a bloody haircut. Mark Furlong


Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 13:22:13 +1000 From: Matthew Zappulla

The details might be a little sketchy on this entry, but I swear the punchline was dead-set true.

Back in about 1981 I was in Grade 1 (ie. 6 years old) and already a mad Carlton supporter. As a result, nothing gave me more pleasure than rubbing it into my magpie loving classmates whenever Collingwood got done.

Anyway, you may recall that back in the days of the Escort Cup when the VFL only had 12 teams they'd get some of the SANFL or WAFL teams to make up the numbers for a 16 team knock out comp. One game I fondly recall Collingwood getting done over by Port Adelaide. Because both Port & Collingwood wore black and white stripes, on the night in question Collingwood wore a solid black jumper with a white "V" ala Melbourne's design. In response to my unending teasing at losing to a team that wasn't even in the VFL one of my Collingwood supporting classmates gave up the following lame excuse for losing:

"They weren't used to the jumpers".

Now this was said as a six year old twenty years ago - the sad part is that the bloke in question would probably still use the same excuse today!


Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 05:01:16 +1000 From: Paul

Scene: A Collingwood supporter walking to the tram stop with an Essendon supporter after the 1990 GF...........

Collingwood supporter "....good old collingwood forever.....maaaate, that win was worth the 32 year wait... it just about heals the pain of Wayne harmes cheating Carlton to the flag in '79, and Kerry Goode along with the umpires cheating North to that night flag... this my friend is the sweetest moment in football..EVER!! Just remember who kicked 5 goals in todays granny - Essendon!! hehe They said Richmond was going to be the team of the 80's, well we'll be called the team of the 90's. All these new interstate teams will never win flags as long as Collingwood is in the league... Leigh Matthews will be coach forever.. atleast 5 flags i reckon. Essendon, what a team of duds! Sheeds' days are numbered, cant see him staying much longer, you might as well give up following Essendon and barrack for a REAL team.... (Collingwood supporter goes on and on and on about how good Collingwood are and will be, and how useless every other team in the league is...)

So what do you have to say about all this mate? (poking the essendon supporter in the arm)

Essendon Supporter ... "Sorry mate, i was listening to my walkman!" (as he pulls the earpiece out from under his beanie..)

No obscure stats etc here, but it would be fun to piss off (oops annoy) a Collingwood fan with a comeback like that.

Paul Hutchins - Dandenong North


Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 18:35:24 +1000 From: KyselaO

In a football argument, the Melbourne supporter, like no other, has the capacity to draw on successes in other fields to maintain the upper hand in the event the argument comes down to a photo finish. But all arguers can make most statistics work for them by attaching a specific time frame to that statistic.

Consider the Melbourne "supporter" vs Hawthorn "member", with Melbourne staring in the face of defeat:

Melbourne Supporter: Head-to-head, we are still in front.
Hawthorn Member: Not head-to-head in the last 10 years
Melbourne Supporter: How many premierships have you won?
Hawthorn Member: How many of those have you seen?
Melbourne Supporter: If it wasn't for Jim Stynes in 1987, we would have won another flag.
Hawthorn Member: If it wasn't for Jim Stynes in 1987, you wouldn't have got that far in the first place (or Buckenara would have kicked it anyway)
Melbourne Supporter: When's the last time you made a Grand Final?
Hawthorn Member: Tell me, who ran 2nd in last year's Cox Plate? Who cares? You don't win silver, you lose gold.
Melbourne Supporter: At least our horse won at Caulfield yesterday
Verdict: Melbourne Supporter wins argument because: 1) Started punchline with "At Least"., and
2) Hawthorn supporter's horse ran 4th in a Class 4 at Colac on a heavy track.

Oliver Kysela

Oliver Kysela


Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 19:07:23 +1000 From: Chris Pezzimenti

In the game against Richmond earlier this year, a particularly verbose Tiger kept hurling obsenities at one Nathan Buckley - and the game was only 2 minutes old!!

After creating Collingwood's first goal with a sublime handball that Diesel would have been proud of, I turned to this bloke and said "It's a good thing he's so S$%t, otherwise he would have had to kick it himself" to which Moron Tiger replied "Yeah, but he'll never play State-of-Origin again, will he?"

I still laugh when I think about it.

Chris Pezzimenti


Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 19:51:13 +1000 From: Joel Ford

Dear Simon,

I'll keep it short but sweet,
" At least we've got more ex-Geelong Falcons than you!"

Joel Ford.


Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 20:48:22 +1000 From: Kaylene Madden

My team is Geelong Hawthorn v. Geelong, 1989 Grand Final, Hawtorn Cheated! They Blew the siren tooooo soon!! West Coast v. Geelong, 1992 Grand Final, West Coast Cheated. West Coast v. Geelong, 1994 Grand Final, West Coast Cheated, AGAIN! Carlton v. Geelong, 1995 Grand Fianl, Match fixing (or Carlton Cheated)
Tommymads


Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 21:39:06 +0800 From: Andrew & Mariko

As a Geelong supporter I've had to have a pretty good stock of these over the years.

Responding mainly to Hawthorn, West Coast, or Carlton supporters jibes about the lack of premierships:

'Ah yes, but you are so focused on the form of recent decades - lets go backİto the century before lastİwhen Geelong (then the Seagulls) were the most powerful team in the Victorian Football Association with seven premierships in 10 years between 1878-1887, making the current Essendon team look like the St.Kilda of the 1980's'İ - that one usually confuses people just long enough to slink away from the erupting onslaught.

Andrew Francis

Hong Kong

P.S. - love the show - listen to it every Saturday via audio streaming


Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 23:52:04 +1000 From: Russell McIntosh

Here are a couple of entries into "best comebacks" competition for this week.

I am a Richmond supporter.

On receiving regular jibes from mates about my team finishing 9th all the time, I have often come back with the "atleast we don't waste our time getting into finals and then not winning the thing"

When being beaten by the leagues 'less financial' clubs (e.g. Kangaroos) - "atleast we can afford to celebrate when we have a win"

When being beaten by Essendon - "Well where do you think your bloody coach came from"

Thanks,

Russell McIntosh


Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 09:41:12 +1000 From: Frank Woods

Simon, my first time entry to 'the competition' as for the past 10 years I have listened to the Coodabeens in delay - 1 week delay - while the tapes made there way via Aussie Post to Sydney. The web site and email now allows me to enter in real time! Thanks.

All the best

Frank Woods

Turramurra NSW

Anyway the story.....

The Time: 'Twas in another time, a time of toil and strife, when Brasso was the Coach and wins were hard to find.

The Venue: A near empty SCG on a sunny July Sunday afternoon.

The Clash: A fair to middling Richmond taking on a very lowly Swannies

The Cast:

DORIS (possibly not her real name) Tiger fan who had made the journey with her best friend and fellow Tiger's supporter Madge (possibly not her real name) to Sydney, no doubt via overnight bus, for a weekend of factory outlet tours, pokies and footy. Doris is a fair dinkum about the Tigers. Cut and she'd bleed...you know what mean, don't ya?

BIG ALEX, yep it's real name, Swans supporter all of his life but the twist is BA lives in Adelaide and has done almost all of his life. (Born in Darwin but that's another story). BA is in town to attend a conference for his company (he is the SA State Manager and HO is in Sydney, as you'd expect) and has come up a day early to watch his Swannies.

The Real Clash: Big Alex takes on Doris mid way through the second quarter....the story goes like this....

The ball is on the HFF for the Swans, outer side now, going to the Randwick end - just where we are all sitting (Doris and Madge a few rows in front of Alex myself and our regular Swans addicts). Scotty Turner is over the ball on his hands and knees waiting for the ump to call for a ball up when a scrawny young Paul Kelly throws himself at the ball and Turner. An elbow or bony knee might have collected Turner who doesn't seem to mind too much but Doris is incensed.

Doris: "You dirty little mongrel 14?"

BA: "What are you on about he was just going for the bawlw."

Doris: "You're kiddin' he's been doin' it all day."

(note, at no stage has Doris turned to face her accuser - just staring our at the ground)

BA: "I'll bet you wish you had a couple who go as hard as him?"

Doris: "He's a mongrel. (Methinks - not very imaginative Doris you've already said that.)

BA: (Gaining in confidence) "Why don't you open both your eyes then you might understand a bot about football!"

Doris: "What would you know about it, get back to your Rugby. You lot from Sydney haven't got a clue!" (Methinks she's onto something here as the bloke behind me asks his mate for the 10th time today "What did the Ref pay that for?")

BA: (overflowing with confidence gathers himself for what he thinks is the knock out blow....wait for it...he says...) "Well that's where your wrong....I'M FROM ADELAIDE!"

Doris is speechless and suddenly Alex is friendless, (as we all moved away from him on the bench) and can't understand why.

The Swans went on to cause an upset and when the last nail was hammered in at about the 20 min mark of the last quarter we all looked for Doris but she'd slipped the net - vanished, gone. Don't ya hate that?

True Story.


Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 19:41:36 +1000

In the "Big Brother" household, which had beenİtaken over by a supporter from each AFL club, a spirited conversation was taking place.

The Hawthorn supporter was loudly saying "we're on the top of the ladder, we're on top of the ladder" Then replies started one after another
WestCoast "Well at least our jumpers aren't the colour of Poos & Wees."
Fremantle"Our jumpers have purple in them!"
Brisbane "Forget jumper colour, my tan is better than yours!"
Swans "My tan is pretty good and we have a bridge on our jumper and in our town"
North "What do you mean your town! We play there and in Canberra. In fact we have more home grounds than any of you"
Western Bulldogs "We not only have a song to run out to but anotherİone if we win"
Carlton "We have our own ground that we own and even better we have our own beer"
Adelaide "We have more members thanİany of you"
Collingwood "Forget members, we are the most popular club in the world"
Port Adelaide "You might be popular but we have more premierships than any of you"
Geelong "What good are SANFL flags. We have more Dr McLelland trophies than you"
Richmond "We have more supporters that turn on us"
Essendon "We have more Johnson's than any one else"
StKilda "Well we are the only ones to have had our one premiership win by one point against Collingwood"

At this allİthe housemates nodded and agreedİ"yeah, that's pretty good"

All except the Melbourne supporter who had been sitting quietly in the corner throughout. The room fell quietİand the Melbourne supporter said "I have a large ski chalet, belong to the Melbourne Club and I drive a Range Rover"

Michele Blight & Wendy Moore


Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 12:04:25 +1000 From: MikeH

lame comeback for Melbourne supporters when they are getting belted:

antagonist: scoreboard!! ...you leather elbow, range rover driving, ski lodge owning rich prick...

melbourne supporters: not only are you riff raff, you're a communist.

cheers

mike honeychurch


Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 22:41:58 +1000 (EST) From: John Kenneth Daykin

For this week's competition I have thought about some of the musty old insults that I and other North Melbourne/Kangaroos supporters have used (or could use). I might add that many of these have re-emerged this year after many years in mothballs marked "not required".

I have also scored them on a rating of 1 to 10 where 1 denotes a club that is easy to insult and 10 a club extremely hard to insult.

Essendon - 9.5 - a tough one, used to be able to use "Marshmallows" but now I'd try "You're only any good now coz we lent you Denis Pagan for a year back in '92"

Hawthorn - 6.5 (and rising) - anything about their awful colours tends to work, how about "Brown and Gold. Yuck!! Is that why Wynvale stopped sponsoring you?"

Adelaide - 6.5 - difficult after the events of 1998 but try "Funny how Jason McCartney's down OK once he's come to a REAL football club"

Melbourne - 5.0 - gotta be cutting - "At least we never voted to merge"

Carlton - 4.0 - "Grand Final fodder"

Sydney - 3.5 - ditto

Western Bulldogs - 3.5 - "Tragic"

StKilda - 3.0 - ditto

Richmond - 3.0 (but rising) - "Crawl back into the woodwork" used to work when we beat them but last time we played I used "At least we never had Alan Bond for president".

Collingwood - 2.5 - "Not a bad bunch of kids. You might make a good side one day." (Collingwood supporters still like to think their side and supporters are the most feared and disliked in the league).

West Coast Eagles - 2.0 - "Call that a football jumper?"

Port Adelaide - 2.0 - Having never beaten us in a match for premiership points is good to use but "Is that your mascot?" followed by a laugh at the start of a match against them always works.

Brisbane - one could mention Carrara but "Come back and see us when you've won a preliminary final" always works considering events of 1996 and 1999

Geelong - 1.0 - Too easy, "Sleepy Hollow", "Handbags", "No wonder Garry Sidebottom missed the bus" are good but "You're only playing in the league now because of North Melbourne" always works but needs some explanation - After Geelong spent two years out of the league during World War II North Melbourne's support was instrumental in allowing them to get back in. Other clubs, particularly Essendon, opposed the Cats getting back in.

Fremantle - 0.001 - Not worth insulting but if one ignores their record in the AFL anything about their colours or jumper works, that is if there's any of their supporters around to hear you.

regards

john daykin


Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 22:47:06 +1000 From: Mark Giuliano

As a lifelong South Melbourne/Swans supporters I knew only too well that my team had won a mere three premierships in 104 years (a 2.88% strike rate).

So when the Swans lost to the AAA Kangaroos last year, a juvenile Kanagroos supporter gave it to me :

We've won more premierships than you (4)

To which I replied (in an even more juvenile fashion) :

"Yeah !!??? Well we've played in more Grand Finals than you (12 versus North's 9)

Mark Giuliano


Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 09:38:48 +1000 From: Bob Crain

Dear Simon

The riddle of this weeks competition left me spellbound, I recorded the segment of the show where you layed out the terms and conditions of the following weeks competition. I listened to it several times in an attempt to work out exactly what you were looking for (Simon are you some kind of lawyer or something?). After much consternation and several trips to the Funk and Wagnells the following is my definition of exactly what the criteria is for this weeks competition.

"Provide statistically based one-liners which can be used to hurl at opposition supporters when required to excuse your teams' current position on the ladder" is that right?

If that is the question, then I only need refer to my personal experience when leaving the "Other Stadium" in the middle of the 4th stanza of the Kangaroos VS Richmond encounter of a few rounds ago.

Upon being confronted by abuse from a Richmond supporter (probably not a member) as I sulked away to the carpark with several other Roos supporters, I politely asked the loud Tiger supporter (who had obviously been into the VB since lunch) "How many times has your team been in the finals in the last 10 years?". This outburst from me attracted loud applause from the other Roos supporters around who witnessed the event. My question of course attracted a spew of vulgar abuse from the Tiger faithful but very little in the way of substance or statistical analysis. (I know I have to cut this short or I won't even get a look in so the crux is and the real point of this entry is.)

The Tiger fan could have easily come back with this after my little comment.

Na Na Na Na Na we've finished 9th three years in a row Na Na Na Na Na.

That would have shut me up.

Bob the Yank

PS. Please tell Champs to play the song I sent in or I won't be submitting the massive backlog of material I've been holding on to!!!!


Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 22:55:14 +1000 From: Mark Giuliano

I remember being at a Fitzroy v Essendon game a few year's back when a feisty (and very unsympathetic) Bomber declared that "We won the first Premiership"

To which an extremely knowlegable Royboy gave the double barrelled reply :

"Yeah?? Well we won the first Grand Final AND won the wooden spoon and the the Premiership in the same year"

Footnote : I just HAD to verify this when I got home.

(1) TRUE - Essendon won the 1st Premiership in 1897, but it was a round-robin finals series with no Grand Final.İ e first Grand Final as played in 1898 which the Gorilla's duly saluted in !!

(2) WW1 saw only 4 teams contest the season in 1916.İ Fitzroy finished the season last but still played off in the Finals and improved to make and win the Grand Final


Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 11:54:37 +1000 From: "Liddicoat, Gregory A"

This was my pathetic response to a Kangaroos supported after their shock defeat of Collingwood (my team) breaking a 2 week losing streak a fortnight ago:

"That was nothing, Collingwood broke a much longer losing streak of 8 games when we beat the Kangaroos back in 1996"

I have the name a game tape of this game (round 15, 1996) which is still on high rotation.

Greg
East Keilor


From: skunkman@alphalink.com.au

When the Swans got beaten by St Kilda earlier this season and I was copping it froma saint Kilda supporter, I came back with :

"Well we were the only team to have a positive Win/Loss ratio at the Lake Oval"

Andrea Harding THORNBURY


Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 15:00:45 +1000 From: "Walby, Andrew"

Guess which team.

Since the final 8 was introduced, we have been the "best team outside the 8" on more occasions than any other team (3 times in the past 5 years).

We won the inaugural Coleman medal (1981).

We had the first Norm Smith medalist not to have played in the winning team (1982).

We are the "Friday night specialists" as we play more Friday night games than any other team this year (8, cf Essendon 7, North 6).

We are the "Monday night specialists" as we have won the only Monday night game ever played (v. North at the "G" when we kicked 6 goals in the opening 9 minutes, and never looked back).

We've had more coaches in the past 15 years than any other club.

We have the leading player with "contested marks" for the year to date (unfortunately he pulled a hammie last week).

Andrew Walby


Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 15:00:24 +1000 From: Brian Duffy

Being a Carlton supporter - any loss against Essendon I usually come back with - well who let Collingwood win a GF IN 1990. Any other loss - at least we have our own ground and a stand with the potential of being listed by Heritage Victoria !!

Regards Brian


Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 15:26:01 +1000 From: Craig Townsend

just a short and sweet Richmond perspective on the feeble statistical riposte:

'...yeah, well we've had more pyrrhic victories than you'.

Regards,

Craig Townsend
Lilydale.


Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 15:42:28 +1000 From: Keith Payne

From KEITH PAYNE, Ferny Creek

I am a Kangaroos supporter, and at the minute, we are getting a lot of mileage out of our "TEAM OF THE NINETIES" tag. It will be a few years (or maybe only three Essendon flags) until that gets trumped.

Other pathetic lines used include:

HAWTHORN: No supporter of a team that plays in those colours has the right to say anything.

ESSENDON: At least we didn't let Collingwood win a flag

BULLDOGS: Yeah, but what's the point? - you'll only go and lose in the finals anyway.

RICHMOND: At least our supporters can spell the name of the club.

ST KILDA: Yeah, well done. The boys must haveİbeen off the grog for a change.

MELBOURNE: You lot even blame the umpires when you win!

GEELONG: 1997!!!!!

FREEO: Not applicable

Keith Payne


Andrew McDonald

Last Saturday night at Football Park in Adelaide; it's late in the final quarter and Josh Fraser has just booted a magnificent sausage from fifty to nail tight Port Adelaide's coffin, in the Magpie Derby. As the home crowd makes vocal its underwhelming generosity to a worthy opponent, a stoked Collingwood supporter turns to his Port Adelaide supporting mate next to him:

"Black and White and Teal .... what sort of namby pamby colour is teal!?

Andrew McDonald


Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 21:04:00 +1000 From: Andrew Carter

I think this is the best obscure fact in football. It concerns the Fitzroy football club. In 1916 the number of teams was cut to four due to the war and Fitzroy finished last on the ladder after the home and away series but won all three finals games to win the premiership.

No other team can say that they finished last and came up to win the flag!!!

Cheers
Andrew Carter


Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 02:52:34 +1000 From: Jason North

Being a Carlton member with a real true "WE ARE SO MUCH BETTER THEN YOU" attitude. I and my Blue Blooded mates have polite rhetorical reply to all oppisition supporters when facing defeat.

A few examples;

Western Bulldogs - How many flags have you won in the last 30 years? or At least we have a home ground or maybe haven't you got a ship to unload at the docks. (That one is generally reserved for the woman fans)

Geelong - How many flags have you won in the last 30 years? & They are simply sheep shaggers. (No denying the facts!)

Essendon - Your personnel hygiene is quite atrociuos (dido to Richmond fans)

Collingwood - Where do you start. 1970 is a good as anywhere. They are generally in tears by 1979. By the time you start talking about 1981, you need to get the police ready, just to push the last button and have them ejected you mention the centenary match.

Anyway, the major reason for the entry was to suggest a competition.

I was watching the 1981 grand final on Tuesday night as you do and I really got caught up in the enormous banners that were draped over the old southern stands & northern stands. Obviuosly back then the almighty sponsorship dollar didn't pack as much punch as it does today, where you can be ejected for draping a scarf over a Coca Cola sign.

Anyway, there were a couple of beauties. IE "COLLINGWOOD" This banner took up a third of the grandstand. Carlton had a shocker like "OUR BRAVE BATTALION OF BRILLANT BLUES" This also took up a third of the stand. There were a few others but the best was all alone on the western stand and I kid you not.

"THE MEN IN WHITE ARE ALWAYS RIGHT"

You could have great comp using this as a central theme perhaps with a modern day twist.

Just an idea, I thought you guys might like?

All the best

Jason


Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 23:22:59 +1000 From: Ben Davies

When it comes to Great Football Excuses and Rationalisations, it is hard to match the Geelong era of 1989 to 1995. Four losing Grand Finals is a most fertile source of excuses andİlimp come-backs. As a Cats fan, I should know - I gurantee that I have used all of the following myself....

1989 - Geelong Loses Grand Final to Hawthorn:
* Well WE broke YOUR record for the most points kicked in a season (Geelong kicked 3452 points in 1989; previous record: Hawthorn, 3162 in 1982)
* Well WE won three games in a row by one hundred points or more this year. No team has ever done that before
. * Well OUR player broke the record for most goals in the Grand Final (Ablett, 9) Teams win flags EVERY year, but 9 goals in a Grand Final has only happend ONCE in 93 years.
* YOUR team plays boring, efficient football. WE give the fans what they REALLY want - exciting, attacking football.
1992 - Geelong Loses Grand Final to West Coast:
* Well WE kicked the all-time record score this year (37.17.239 v Brisbane at Carrara). Teams win flagsİEVERY year, but the record score only gets broken on average once every 11.5 years (Stan will back me up on this; the previous two records were broken in 1979 and 1969)
* Well WE had the most players playing for Victoria this year; and Victoria beat Western Australia.
* Well WE broke OUR OWN record for the most points kicked in a season (3558). No other team has done that since South Melbourne in 1934. Teams win flags EVERY year but a team has only broken its own record for points scored in a seasonTWICE in 96 years.
* YOUR team plays boring, efficient football. WE give the fans what they REALLY want - exciting, attacking football.
1994 - Geelong Loses Grand Final to West Coast:
* Well WE have the two-time Coleman Medallist (Ablett). OUR full forward kicked more goals (129) than YOURS did when YOU lost the Grand Final (Sumich - 111 goals in 1991)
* Well WE won three finals in a row to get to the Grand Final. EVERYONE knows it's impossible to win the Grand Final after winning three finals. All the other teams who made the Grand Final after winning three finals lost by bigger margins than us (Collingwood, 81 pts in 1980; Essendon, 83 pts in 1983; Melbourne, 96 pts in 1988) so WE were actually THE BEST performed team in such circumstances! (note: this theory was subsequently B.O.O.T.W. (Blown Out Of the Water) by Adeliade in 1997)
* Well WE won two finalsİthis year after the final siren. Teams win flags EVERY year but winning two finals after the siren has only ever happenedİONCE in 98 years!
* YOUR team plays boring, efficient football. WE give the fans what theyREALLY want - exciting, attacking football.
1995 - Geelong Loses Grand Final to Carlton:
* Sometimes in life, there are performances and actions which are so mediocre that no excuses or rationalisations are even remotely plausible. Certainly not this one, which John from Brighton described as "the most insipid performance I have seen by a Geelong football side - EVER"
* After all those years making excuses, it finally dawned on me that Yabbie Jeans'İwords of wisdom were true: "Success needs no explanation; Failure accepts no alibi"


Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 10:11:21 +1000 From: Peter O'Sullivan

Here are someİreplies one might expect from various opposition supporters.

Port: How are we supposed to steal a close win when Football Park is so over policed. We would have won if it was at Alberton.

Richmond: Did weİlose? When isİRicho due back?

Carlton: We don't want to peak to early.

Sydney: We don't really care who wins We just want to see a good contest. So what if our last flag was in 1933 What about University? When did they last win a flag? Why doesn't anyone talk about that?

Geelong: İBobby Davis says there is this young boy running around at The Grammar..... It's theİangle of the sun at Colonial. Just a hint of Glomesh and BANG the whole team is blinded.

Bulldogs: We just wanted to go into next week's game against Fremantle as the underdogs.

West Coast: Our players biorhythms are all out of whack constantly travelling through time zones every second week.

Melbourne: How can our players focus when there is all this talk about increasing the lift prices at Mt Buller again this season.

Peter O'Sullivan
Gisborne


Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 10:27:17 +1000 From: Adam Ellerton

when interstate you gotta say something.

Adelaide : "so how many grand prix's do you have?"
Brisbane : "so how many grand prix's do you have?"
Fremantle: "so how many grand prix's do you have?"
Port Adeliade : "so how many grand prix's do you have?"
Sydney : "so how many grand prix's do you have?"
West Coast : "so how many grand prix's do you have?"


Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 12:02:09 +1100 From: Paul Hughes

I tuned into the start of the Collingwood v Port game last week, to hear the announcer emphatically state "This IS Finals Football". So I guess at least when the Pies lose a game this year, their fans can retort with a confident "Well, at least we're the only team to win a final this year!"

They're different over there in Adelaide.

Paul Hughes.


Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 12:18:52 +1000 From: "BULL,TRAVIS (HP-Australia,ex2)"

Due to the fact our organisation (Travis Bull from Surrey Hills) was not read out last week turmoil has hit the commitee. Many people in the organisation were not happy with the entry submitted.

Our president Travis Bull on Saturday afternoon asked for the responsible parties to resign. This move was rejected and subsequently critised as being poor timing as it was 7 weeks into the coodabeen comp and would affect the callibre of future entries.

As a result our President Travis Bull himself has resigned saying he did not feel he had the support of the organisation

Our President has resigned stating however that he will return.

So as a result here is the interium entry:

I had an argument with a Richmond supporter earlier this week

My team Melbourne has a more complicated corporation law than yours.

Entry By: The acting president of Travis Bull from Surrey Hills


Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 15:24:55 +1000 From: "Treseder, Peter"

A list of pithy put downs follow, if none of them are any good you can always resort to "Oh Yeah" or "Well my dad is bigger than your dad"

AAA Kangaroos - Yeah well, your coach is a masticator!

Adelaide - Does having a team named after a girl ever worry you?

Brisbane - At least we try to beat the opposition, not each other!

Carlton - Did you really think about that statement or have you borrowed John Elliot's brain?

Collingwood - Did you choose to support Collingwood or did your parole officer recommend it?

Essendon - Premierships are easy when you think a salary cap is the top end of a green vegetable!

Fremantle - Winning isn't everything, but at least it is worth a try!

Geelong - Maybe Ablett would be in the Hall of Fame, if he played in winning grand final team!

Hawthorn - Football is an endless struggle full of frustrations and challenges, but eventually your players will find a hairstyle they like!

Melbourne - No wonder you have board problems, no flag for nearly 40 years, I would be bored too

Port Adelaide - Don't give me pre-season premierships, even Collingwood win them!

Richmond - It is easier to have expectations than to play to them

St Kilda - The people of St Kilda abandoned their island in 1930, when are you abandoning the club?

Sydney -Your top players make over $300,000 and they still can't afford a house.

Western Bulldogs - Well at least we have more members than premierships!

West Coast - The whole country is ahead of you! (very poor time zone pun, my brain was getting tired)

Regards,

Peter "Trash" Treseder

P.S. At least with phone in quiz, there are right answers!


Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 15:28:20 +1000 From: "Salton, Jeff"

Hair is always a touchy subject. Let's see if you blokes are 'big enough' to read out my entry without going for your hats!

- Jeff from Kilsyth

In response to a typical Bomber taunt about "how many premierships have you won in the last 20 years" (0), all Tiger fans should respond in the following manner ...

"Yeah, well, how many awards have you won in the past 30 years inİthe:

Advanced Hair Studios/Godfrey's "Follicle Challenge?"

Since 1970, the Tigers have been the undisputed champions in the following categories:
Best Jex Head - Michael Mitchell
Best Comb-over - Kevin Bartlett
Best Beatle wig imitationİ- Mal Brown
Best Sharpie - Robbie McGhie
Best Mullet - Geoff Raines
Best Blond Mullet - Phillip Walsh, Alan Edwards (tie)
Best Perm - Dennis Collins
Best Coloured Perm - Wes Barrott
Best Rough Nut - Stuart Edwards, Craig McKellar (tie)
Best Hair Missing in Action - Rex Hunt
Best 'Perfect' Hair - Mervyn Keane
Best Hairy Lip - Tony Jewell
Best Worst Beard - Richo (that little surfie thing!)

"Now how important do your lousy premierships look, eh?"

Jeff Salton


Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 16:04:54 +1000 From: Doug Long

"How many flags have YOU ("you" said with an annoying whine in their voice) won?"

This is the most overused and abused comment of all. And so irrelevant, too.

The real question to be asked should be: "How many REAL FLAGs have YOU won?"

(A REAL FLAG is one where there has been at least a 25 year drought preceding it.)

You see a flag is ONLY TRULY APPRECIATED by the hungry, success - starved fans who have lived through the hard times!!

Think of the so - called "GREAT" grand finals that come to mind:

1989: Rubbish; the Hawks went back to back; no REAL sweet taste of victory there

1970: Similar thing; Blues had won in 1968

The REAL GREAT fLAGS were ones like the Hawks in 1961; Saints in 1966 where they won a lone flag after decades of failure.

In fact, teams like Carlton and Essendon have robbed their fans for over 100 years by NEVER WINNING A REAL FLAG in their TRAGIC HISTORY!

Some may respond to this last comment by suggesting that I am bitter and twisted.

This is not possible– I am a Geelong supporter!

And MY TEAM WON THE FIRST REAL FLAG in 1925 followed by Melbourne (1926), the Bulldogs (1954), Hawthorn (1961), and St Kilda (1966), North (1975), Collingwood (1990).

The fans of these teams can truly rejoice when that elusive REAL FLAG does come their way.

And with very few Johhny– Come– Latelys on the band wagon!

These seven clubs are acquainted with suffering.

Take Melbourne, for example. Who can forget that fateful day late in 1987 (Jim Stynes certainly cannot)? MANY DEES FANS WERE SEEN WEEPING openly when "WALL STREET had their biggest one day downturn since the great depression".

Of these seven teams, the Bulldogs, Geelong, Melbourne and St Kilda are, once again, in a 25 year premiership drought. As such, they are best placed to win a second REAL FLAG and become the greatest team of all, IN REAL TERMS.

Its easy to get a champion team together and win a few normal flags; it takes great skill and perseverence to win REAL FLAGS!

It is obvious that the Eagles and Adelaide have no clue whatsoever when it comes to pleasing their fans. It will be decades before their supporters can genuinely appreciate true success now, thanks to THEIR STUPIDITY IN ATTAINING EARLY SUCCESS.

FREO– Now there is a team on the right track!

When they win their first AFL flag in about the year 2256, their fans will really party hard.

Doug Long


Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 16:47:13 +1000 From: Tim Fewster

I cant find one for Fremantle.

Well maybe there are one or two.

We've got the best web site in the AFL !

We can buy our merchandise the cheapest on sale

We can buy our memorabilia at very affordable price

We can plan holidays in September before any other AFL supporters

I am sure there are many more.

Regards

Tim Fewster


Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 17:00:56 +1000 From: paul russo

Some retorts after your side has lost again and Essendon and Carlton have won again:

From Swans supporter "Well, ahh, umm,errrr, at least we've given away more champions than you have. E.g. Carey, Hird, the entire Daniher family etc, etc."

From Saints supporter " There's more to footy than winning Premierships - e.g. night Grand Finals, Brownlows, quality disco, getting number one draft choices and adding to the general revenues of the state via the police "

From Faction 3366 - NOT A POSTCODE. Thanks to Doug Long for pointing that out.
Paul Russo/John Clements


Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 15:51:29 +1000 From: Jeffrey Ferguson

Congratulations on the ratings!

The following pathetic repertoire can be heard being said by Richmond supporters after a lose:

"We would have won if umpire 32 (Goldspink) had not been umpiring"

"At least they got closer than last year" - normally said after a Richmond/Essendon game

"Gee we played well for the last 6 minutes of the second quarter"

" At least we outscored you in the 2nd quarter"

"At least we have Freo next week" - Normally followed by a 10 goal shellacking by Freo.

"At least our little league team won"

" We would have won if the last quarter went for another 45 minutes!"

" At least we tired them out for next week"

" Our club song is better than yours!!"

Regards

Jeffrey Ferguson


Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 19:01:40 +1000 From: PHILIP CROOKS

We of the Bomber faith have the exact opposite of the problem which you encountered recently when you had to search for some statistical edge over your opponent to prove a point to an opposition supporter. Having won 50 of our last 57 games we have to search for a stat which highlights any miniscule deficiency just so we can engage in anything that resembles a conversation with a fellow footy follower. You may here us grumbling"we only went inside 50 33 times last week" We usually omit the fact we kicked 25 goals 8 behinds from those 33 entries and won by 86 points. If we are down at 1/4 time, we can quickly trot out the stat that "we have lost 75% of the games when we were behind at 1/4 time" leaving out the fact that we have only lost 3 games in the last 40.

It is not easy being Black & Red

Philip Crooks


Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 06:38:44 +1000 From: g moss

As a long suffering Collingwood supporter I used to resort to the line "well at least we have won more premierierships than you", but this is no longer applicable in the cases of several teams that I cannot bring myself to say the name of. Now I have joined the thousands of Mexicans in South East Queensland and like many of my fellow bananna benders I follow the Lions and go to most of the games. Our success at the Gabba guarantees a good result on most occassions. If we happen to be losing and a smart arse supporter from down south begins to mouth off I can always use the line "at least we have more sunshine at our games".

Gary Moss

A hello to Tony the mug lair who used to be work associate of mine at DAS. Hows this for a typical Qld saturday. Walk on the beach, Game of gold at Royal Pines, Few beers, Watch the pies live on the Telly, A bet on the internet, Few beers, Up to the Gabba to watch Brizzie, Few beers, home to watch the replay of the game.


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